Talk:Suva

This page, and every related page, are in need of a lot of attention and citations. I will get to work when I have time, but I am busy and this is such a huge amount. Here are the sources I've found on the the various Suva, the Kanohi, the Golden Kanohi, the way they relate to Toa Tools, their teleportation/abilities, and more. This is nowhere near comprehensive, but it is a kicking-off point for anyone who wants to help. Firespitter Lhii (talk) 15:15, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

I'm willing to take a crack at this. Gathered some more down below. ChroniclerTakanuva (talk) 21:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Function/Use

• User must be wearing a mask in order to access/summon any of the Kanohi from their Suva - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page3#post99-line8,9
• They are seen and used as shrines - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page14#post521-line27-28
• The Suva are not necessary for the use of the Nuva Symbols - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page25#post978-line41-42
• The Suva use teleportation - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page24#post930-line16-17 & https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page26#post1025-line4-6,27

Firespitter Lhii (talk) 15:15, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Suva can only transport Kanohi - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page148#post5888
• Suva can only be used by Toa - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2008-2010/page57#post2265
• There is a telepathic component to their function - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2013-2017/page258#post8595808 ChroniclerTakanuva (talk) 21:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

The Suva on Mata Nui

• The Suva and Kini on Mata Nui were built by the Toa Metru and Matoran when they came to the island https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page32#post1247-line38-39
• There were Noble Kanohi on the Toa's Suva - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page27#post1041-line9-10
• Tahu's Suva was destroyed when Ta-Koro Sank - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page19#post741-line74-75
• After they got the Nuva Symbols back, it was decided that it was unsafe to keep them on the Suva - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page19#post743-line19-20
• The Toa Suva on Mata Nui were destroyed by the Bohrok when cleansing Mata Nui -> https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2008-2010/page5#post164-line8,18
• (This seems to contradict canon, but is older than pretty much all contradicting sources, so IDK) New Suva were constructed on Mata Nui to honor the Toa Nuva, represented by the Nuva's canister lids - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page14#post552-line9-10
• The Great Kanohi on the Suva of the Toa Mata/Nuva disappeared when they got the Golden Kanohi(and it also implies the Kanohi Nuva were put on the same Suva) https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page27#post1041-line11-12

Firespitter Lhii (talk) 15:15, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• The Turaga stored their noble masks in the Suva prior to the coming of the Toa - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page146#post5821 ChroniclerTakanuva (talk) 21:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Suva on Metru Nui

• The Toa will have to create new Suva on Metru Nui - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page14#post552-line17-18
• The Toa Metru did not have their own Suva - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page26#post1025-line7,28
• The Suva in the Great Temple had all 6 Toa disks(other sources exist too) - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page19#post743-line20 & https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page23#post899-line6-7
• The Toa Metru each had an array of weapons to chose from - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page30#post1192-line2-6,12
• The masks (Kanohi Nuva) were brought to Metru Nui, not the Suvas -> https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2008-2010/page260#post10365-line67 & https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page37#post1454-line9-10
• The Toa Nuva did not carry their Kanohi Nuva with them (during the reign of shadows), and left them on the Suva in Metru Nui, still able to be used -> https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page319#post12747-line13,33

Firespitter Lhii (talk) 15:15, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Lhikann could have used the Great Suva if he wanted. - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page33#post1292
• There were more tools in the Great Suva than the Metru took - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page56#post2206
• The Turaga "probably" had Suva (after returning to Metru Nui??) - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2008-2010/page150#post5990 ChroniclerTakanuva (talk) 21:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Others

• The Toa Nuva's Suva have been moved to Spherus Magna -> https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2013-2017/page379#post10671191-line4,9
• Toa can build Toa Suva in the field -> https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page319#post12747-line13,33
• Tahu did not get new masks when he went to Artahka - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2003-2008/page312#post12474-line10,32

Firespitter Lhii (talk) 15:15, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

• Or, the Nuva's Suva may not have survived the robot's crash... - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2013-2017/page681#post12427947
• Suva were designed by the Great Beings - https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2008-2010/page298#post11900 https://greg.thegreatarchives.com/2008-2010/page309#post12344 ChroniclerTakanuva (talk) 21:22, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Karda Nui

The one quote that says the Toa Nuva couldn't access their Suvas from Karda Nui doesn't give a reason. Though the wording alone does suggest it is something inherent to Karda Nui that is blocking them, it isn't explicitly said either. If it were this one quote, I would say that would be a safe assumption, but it's not. Another quote says "whether their suva have a range that can reach the universe core, though, is problematic." The only time Greg was directly asked if Suvas have a range limit was back in Nov 2006, to which he said "not that we have seen thus far." When asked why the Toa Nuva didn't use their other masks against the Piraka in BL1, he said "Another option that has not been explored if whether or not suva have a range -- the Toa were thousands of kios away from Metru Nui, can they still swap masks with their suva over that much distance? Don't know." He also said all Toa could have and use their own Suvas "if they are within range." EDIT: Found a quote where Greg doesn't deny or confirm whether a Suva could work, since "we don't know that the core's shielding bars all teleportation." Dag (talk) 22:13, 5 May 2024 (UTC)