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Timeline/Toa Empire

Since we don't have a timeline for any other ones, does this really serve a purpose? All of the information is expressed on the Toa Empire Alternate Universe page, anyhow. --Dorek (Talk| Contribs) 02:17, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Delete

  1. --Dorek (Talk| Contribs) 02:17, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
  2. right. I always wondered why this existed, and no such page for Kingdom etc. BoL (talk) 13:24, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
  3. No need. It's not even the main timeline, and it would confuse most people. All of this belongs on the Toa Empire page. ~Nuparu1995 was here / Whine Here! / Lookit What I Did!
  4. Aw, shucks, it's of no real use.-Seanp12-KanohiJournal Trainee (My Page|Talk|Contributions)
  5. Non-BS01 ImageNon-BS01 ImageNon-BS01 Image Yeah, I think we should refrain from making separate timeline pages for alternate universes.
  6. --~|ET|~ (Talk/Contribs)
  7. --KZN02, The Master of Tediousness (Talk|Contribs) 03:21, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
  8. Toa Rovan
  9. Gahlok Va
  10. --Wrinkledlion X Non-BS01 Image 20:21, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Keep

  1. BIONICLE Reference base, anybody? >> [---Exo Malakai-[]ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ>
  2. --Bold Clone (You called?\My Résumé) 16:54, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
  3. ~Deebee~ ( YakYakYak | Keep! Delete! Merge! | Yay! Nay! ) 02:15, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
  4. Legend of Lesovikk|Respect|Tribute
  5. Lesovikk1996 (Talk to Me!|My Contributions)
  6. --Ultima Kid--Proud Wiki-toran(Blah, Blah BlahWoah! I blew up WSU!Ahh! The sneevil are attacking!Look what I got!) 06:48, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
  7. It's a nice, brief set of facts. Makuta of FAIL-blob-Nui
  8. Kaitan 18:42, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
  9. da timeline is needed! Non-BS01 Image/Contribs/My Sandbox/The Board Room/
  10. --Toatapio Nuva 13:38, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
  11. With me, keep is winning! Kopaka251 00:40, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
  12. It's a keepable! Keep it up! --Kopaka Teridax: King of Ice and Shadow 23:34, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Merge with Toa Empire Alternate Universe

  1. Makuta Miserix 11:33, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
  2. --Aanchir 15:44, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
  3. -Lhiky 01:34, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
  4. -Not quite sure how merging the timeline with a page will go but it's better than keeping it. -MB17 04:37, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Comments

I can't easily agree to delete this-- it has a lot of good content in a very well-organized format, but still the page at least needs some modification. After all, it says the events happen alongside Karda Nui's events, when several of them happened over 1000 years prior, when the universe first split from the main universe! But yeah, this should prolly be merged with something, though I don't think I could make a real decision on what. The pocket dimension's own page seems OK, so that's where I'll put my vote, despite my indecision.--Aanchir 15:44, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Basically, all of the information -is- already in the TEPD page, which is why I didn't create it as an option. And since we don't have a timeline for any of the other pocket dimension pages, why should we have one for this one? And even though some of the events in there occur simultaneously with the Karda Nui timeline, so little of it has relevance to it. --Dorek (Talk| Contribs) 18:10, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
I mean, put the timeline under a section on Toa Empire Pocket Dimension.Non-BS01 ImageNon-BS01 Image 11:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Kanohi Nuva

We don't have pages for "Noble Kanohi" or "Great Kanohi," why do we need a page for what's just another classification for masks? -Shine

Merge with Kanohi

  1. -Shine
  2. Yes thats right. BoL (talk) 09:20, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
  3. --Aanchir 11:55, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
  4. I agree.--Toa Razek (My Page|Chute-Speak|My Carvings) 12:05, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
  5. Non-BS01 ImageNon-BS01 ImageNon-BS01 Image
  6. I like the idea, but we would have to make a better looking Kanohi Nuva Tab on the Kanohi page. ~DB~ 16:18, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
  7. I agree. Orka, Toa of stoneQuick speakNon-BS01 Image
  8. --KZN02, The Master of Tediousness (Talk|Contribs) 18:21, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
  9. Aravagantos | ¡¿?!/ñ 18:26, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
  10. Looks n00bish Matt
  11. Wrong. Kanohi nuva are a very rare power level of kanohi. They are not completely different from kanohi, no more than kanohi nui (translated into english as "Great Masks"), noble kanohi, or legendary kanohi are different from kanohi. They are all kanohi. The only type of masks that are completely different from kanohi, are the masks worn on Bara Magna. (Please pardon my rather heated speech. :) )-Seanp12-KanohiJournal Trainee (My Page|"..."|Contributions)

Keep

  1. this should not be on the kanohi page since they are not actually kanohi, they are mutated by energized protodermis. -Non-BS01 Image/Contribs/My Sandbox/The Board Room/
  2. Keep. --Toatapio Nuva 20:17, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
  3. Toa Rovan
  4. Kanohi Nuva are separate from normal Kanohi. They have every right to have their own page. They stay. Also, you just dismissed the 'All Kanohi Nuva pages' section. To merge the Kanohi Nuva parent page is to also merge the separate Kanohi Nuva pages together. --Bold Clone (You called?\My Résumé) 21:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
  5. Makuta of FAIL-blob-Nui
  6. -Lhiky
  7. Lesovikk1996 (Talk to Me!|My Contributions)
  8. I'm pretty sure Kanohi Nuva also have a section on the Kanohi page as well. Plus, they're entirely different. ~Nuparu1995 was here / Whine Here! / Lookit What I Did!
  9. Jalaguy -- Quick-Speak 14:44, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
  10. Keep all the way. Kopaka251 00:43, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
  11. Kanohi Nuva are different enough from Kanohi to have their own page, and have sufficient information. SonicBOOM XS 04:43, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Comments

I'd be reluctant because it would necessitate getting rid of the set info section (since a set info section long enough for Kanohi in general simply won't do). The set info section on the Kanohi Nuva page, admittedly, has contents that are bordering on ridiculous (the full contents of the Kanohi Nuva pack, for instance, including the axle and head piece), yet somehow I think we need to mention the silver Kanohi Nuva of the element-drained Toa Nuva on some page's set info section. Any suggestions?--Aanchir 11:55, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

A subsection in the set info section on Kanohi? -Shine
Well, I didn't want a set info section on Kanohi. To include all relevant information it would have to be ridiculously long, covering not only the Kanohi Nuva packs (both kinds-- colored and silver) but also the Kanohi packs. Then again, perhaps it wouldn't be that long compared to the article as a whole, considering that the mask packs would likely be the only set appearances we'd need to cover. I'll see what I can do to make a concise set info section.--Aanchir 12:14, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
If we merge this, then based on the same logic we would need to merge Krana-Kal with Krana. it's the exact same thing: a variant of the orginal created by an unnatural process of mutation. I say keep the page, it's an different thing althogether, whilst Matoran, Great and Noble just like a natural life cycle of sorts. Jalaguy -- Quick-Speak 14:44, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
The difference is that Kanohi Nuva are not at all mutated Kanohi. They are transformed into upgraded forms, which is a different matter entirely. Plus, bear in mind that Kanohi Nuva are essentially the same thing as Kanohi in regard to what they do, with the exception of minor changes in the individual powers and the broader scope of their powers with the whole sharing thing. Krana-Kal are different, for although they come from Krana they have entirely different powers and an overall different nature-- they are sapient, and have distinct personalities rather than the "hive mind" characteristic of Krana. You have a good point about the "life cycle" of course, but what about the Organic Kanohi section of the Kanohi page? Those don't at all fit with the normal cycle, since only under extremely rare circumstances do Matoran Kanohi become organic Great Kanohi. Should those have a separate page from normal Kanohi? Same goes for "Legendary Kanohi". They have one unchanging power level, and cannot in any way take on a different power level. I think Kanohi Nuva make a surprising amount of "sense" in the normal cycle than these examples do.--Aanchir 14:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Vuata Maca Crystal

Three lines of text, one tiny image, one appearance and two mentions, uh-oh. Proposing merge to Vuata Maca, maybe we can get that page a little bigger in the process. -hybrid (talk/contribs) 17:11, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Merge

  1. -hybrid (talk/contribs) 17:11, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
  2. -The Supreme Toa has spoken.
  3. --Bold Clone (You called?\My Résumé) 00:49, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
  4. --KZN02, The Master of Tediousness (Talk|Contribs) 00:52, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Keep

  1. Non-BS01 ImageNon-BS01 ImageNon-BS01 Image It's not hurting anybody.
  2. The average nutjob 18:10, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
  3. So it's a short page, Big whoop. Avlok
  4. -Shine
  5. Lesovikk1996 (Talk to Me!|My Contributions)
  6. Keep is winning by a landslide. 00:46, 6 January 2009 (UTC)Kopaka251
  7. So what if it's a short page? We've got plenty of those that aren't up for deletion. ~Nuparu1995 was here / Whine Here! / Lookit What I Did!
  8. I don't understand what's it with short pages? So what? I mean... does it really matter? Besides, there is pleanty of information about the crystal. --Toatapio Nuva 15:45, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
  9. A person may be short, but that doesn't mean they're any less than a person. Same thing with a page.-Seanp12-KanohiJournal Trainee (My Page|"..."|Contributions)
  10. At least this is useful, unlike all those MNOG2 Matoran with the sme info for each! --Kopaka Teridax: King of Ice and Shadow 23:32, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
  11. --Wrinkledlion X Non-BS01 Image 00:42, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Comments

Can we at least keep the image. (The preceding unsigned comment was made by The Supreme Toa.)

I'm gonna sit this vote out, as I am torn between the two choices. ~DB~ 02:42, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

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