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Welcome to the Member Opinions Hub. This is the place where you can offer any suggestions, opinions, or criticism about the Wiki. As always, please remember to be constructive and polite when adding your piece to this page. The ideas and comments posted here will be taken to the staff for analysis, and we will use your suggestions to make the Wiki a better place. Thank you, and we hope you enjoy the hub. ~ BS01 Public Relations Staff

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Contents 1 Appearances 2 Special Editors 3 Gabbly 4 Polls? 5 (User here) is editing 6 Citing Sources 7 Spoiler/WoW templates 8 Unknown Flying Rahi 9 Event Log 10 Featured Quote 11 Custom Skins 12 MNOLGII 13 Toa Nui 14 Page for The LEGO Group 15 MS Template 16 Species 17 Same Page 18 Krika 19 My 3rd template 20 "Year" Userboxes? 21 Member List 22 Videos 23 please take to mind 24 "BZPower Page" 25 Playsets 26 Category 27 Request's Page 28 @PRA 29 Image Caption Idea 30 Spore 31 Finnish words in Bionicle 32 Index 33 Custom templates 34 Citing Sources 35 ?s 36 AfC 37 Mata Nui 38 Specials 39 Tunnels of Onu-Wahi 40 Sidebar 41 Templates 42 Who is online 43 Idiot 44 Alternate Dimensions vs. Pocket Dimensions 45 Contacting 46 Software Upgrade

[carve] Appearances

Some of the appearances sections of the main characters (like Terry) are getting to long. Maybe we should put them inside scroll bars. Aravagantos | ^¡¿?!/_ñ 03:24, 20 April 2008 (PDT)

You are right his appearances section is too long-user:toa solek

There might be a way to fix that, if the staffers agree. :) ~Nurse Cholie ^(♥/_♫) 19:14, 22 April 2008 (PDT)

I never want to put such a thing on articles. --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 03:26, 23 April 2008 (PDT)

Why not? I think that it would look all right, as long as it is jut appearances. ~Kraahlix

I agree - use scroll bars. And then do it similar as Wookieepedia or Wikipedia and other Wikis: put in brackets whether it was the first appearance, a mentioning or a non-canonical appearance. I know they do it in some articles around here, but I would make it general policy. NtM 11:23, 16 May 2008 (PDT)

[carve] Special Editors

I noticed what was being done with the APO Account (custom right/abilities). Is it possible to give special editing rights to well-known and excellent editors who have proven themselves to be trustworthy with the ability to edit protected pages? If they had this, they could edit all protected pages, with the exception of MediaWiki Pages. Regarding the other Wiki pages (CFS, AfD, Main Page), they would only edit it when necessary, or when fixing a typo. Questions and Critisism welcome. TNU ^{(Talk| My Contribs| Sig Shop)} 11:38, 20 April 2008 (PDT)

Well, I'm pretty sure the account is only to clean up after vandalism, and vandals can't edit protected pages. The edit-protected-pages ability should stay with the staff, IMO. :) ~La Bfa~

That would defeat the purpose of APO. Also, we fear it would cause the members within the special group to assert authority over other members. ~Nurse Cholie ^(♥/_♫) 19:00, 20 April 2008 (PDT)

'Wouldn't work. If they trusted memers that much, theey might as well be staff... You're suggestion - it isn't really needed anyway. Typos can just be given to staff, etc. I mean, it's a idea... But there isn't a need. I'm not trying to just reject it, but... ~Kraahlix

The purpose of APO is so that nobody knows who is in there, and nobody in it is allowed to tell anyone that they are in the account. That way, there won't be authority issues. ^{Larry the} _Guy

I only used APO as an example, but I see what you mean. Speaking of typos, check the CFS page. TNU ^{(Talk| My Contribs| Sig Shop)} 16:45, 21 April 2008 (PDT)

<_< (:P) ^{Larry the} _Guy

[carve] Gabbly

I almost think it would be nice to have a Gabbly page (under BS01 namespace? Or a User-Subpage?) for people to invite people. Then thosse who like to go on Gabbly can add the page to their watch-list, and this way User-talks won't be spammed up with Gabbly invitations... Which is against policy - in a way. ~Kraahlix

You can make a Gabbly anywhere, as long as there is a "www.gabbly.com/" infront of it. :) ^{Larry the} _Guy

Not what I mean, like a Gabbly page where people can say "hey Bfahome, come to Gabbly". ~Kraahlix

I think that'd just encourage more spam. :/ ~La Bfa~

Look at an average talk page and see how many subjects are on Gabbly, that's not good either... ~Kraahlix

Yeah, Er told me to eat it. :P ~Nurse Cholie ^(♥/_♫) 16:50, 21 April 2008 (PDT)

If such a page was made, one could invite several people at once, rather than notifying each member individually... I guess. ~So, _says ^Yoshi!h 16:51, 21 April 2008 (PDT)

No.

This is a BIONICLE site. Not some gabbly forum. All those spam messages on member's talk pages have already gone overboard, and this would just worsen that. --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 03:18, 22 April 2008 (PDT)

You guys can just hang out on the Gabbly chat all day. Or, you can contact each other through PM. ^{Tis not} Bioran

[carve] Polls?

This is the "Member Opinions Hub," so would it be reasonable for members to create polls here in order to find out what other members think about various issues surrounding the Wiki? The Lord of the Masks 05:36, 26 April 2008 (PDT)

Any "polls" made my normal members must first be approved by a staff member. But even then it wouldn't go here - we have a Voting Center for a reason (It's not just for CFS activities). --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 06:43, 26 April 2008 (PDT)

Does this mean that the staff members can decide what members can and cannot vote about based on their personal views? The Lord of the Masks 09:00, 26 April 2008 (PDT)

Yup. Besides, even if we did let members conduct their own polls, we don't have to follow what the results outline; the majority vote does not dictate what is right. -- Cheers, Gravitan^{(Talk | Contribs)}

The PR staff occasionally host member surveys to take in people's opinions. (Pretty much a poll) If you have any questions you would like to ask, we are very glad to take it in and place it on the next survey. :) Bioran (Talk) (Userboxes) (Designs)

[carve] (User here) is editing

Could we get a template like this for when editors are making lengthy edits? TNU ^{(Talk| My Contribs| Sig Shop)} 13:21, 27 April 2008 (PDT)

{{In Use}} -Shine

[carve] Citing Sources

I have read a lot of the pages on this site, and I know that there are cited sources at the bottom of the page, but I think we should also cite information like in MLA Formatted papers, or another similar fashion, like this for pure example.

"Tahu Nuva is the leader of the Toa Nuva and finds that his closest companion in Gali Nuva. (Bionicle Enyclopedia: Updated)"

I think this method of citing would clear up much confusion for some users, and it also allows readers to know exactly where their information is coming from. I have been a fan of Bionicle since the very beginning, and have tried my best to keep up with all the new characters and plot twists, but some of the pages are confusing and I find myself going "Wait, what? Where did that come from?" Please send me feedback and post your comments below. (The preceding unsigned comment was made by Ignacis, Toa Alphata of Fire.)

That's what they appeared in, not the source of the information. ~♪ La Bfa ♫~

Yeah, but still. Just click the "Random Page" button in the Navagation, and see if you see any citation in the actual text. That's what I would like to see, that's all. Ignacis, Toa Alphata of Fire

Well the staff has already decided against citing sources a tall. :/ ~♪ La Bfa ♫~

We are not citing sources, and that is absolutely final. We already decided on the issue a long time ago. -- Cheers, Gravitan^{(Talk | Contribs)}

But why not? This site is about displaying information about the Bionicle Universe. If we cannot allow citation, how can we trust that our information is accurate? Ohterwise, people can go in and completly alter the information based on thier opions. This is same problem the actual wikipdia site had. If we cite our sources, we can ensure that our users are getting the most accurate information possible. Ignacis, Toa Alphata of Fire

Because that is the way this Wiki is run. They debated over citing sources long ago, and in the end, decided against it. It's pretty much a dead issue. If you really want to know where something from the wiki is from, either PM Greg, or do a little manual labor, check the timeline and cross reference with the corresponding book. They're basically making you do things yourself =D --Dorek (Talk| Contribs) 17:43, 28 April 2008 (PDT)

Remind me again, why can't we allow sources? I am not saying we should have them, but the only reason I remember was that "WP does it too." If that's the case, then we should seriously think up of other reasons. After all, if we don't want to be like WP at all, then why are we even using a wiki, which WP is based on? Bioran (Talk) (Userboxes) (Designs)

Because they are cumbersome and make articles look horrible. And because we just do not want them. And the staff run the site, so what we say goes (Yes, Bioran's staff too... But in that case, it's majority rule).

This discussion is over. If this subject ever comes up again, it will promptly be deleted. We've made our decision, and THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 03:31, 29 April 2008 (PDT)

[carve] Spoiler/WoW templates

Wouldn't it be easier just to integrate them? O_o Like {{Spoiler|text=omg SPOILER!!! :O}} for WoW, and for just the spoiler box have {{Spoiler|text=}}? -) El Bf (-

Not really, cause sometimes we use only the warning, and not the WoW. :) ~Nurse Cholie ^(♥/_♫) 17:18, 2 May 2008 (PDT)

That's the kind of thing I was thinking of. -) El Bf (-

My thought exactly :) ~Kraahlix

It works, yes, but it leaves a white space underneath the template, not sure what the other mods think of that. Also, it means that you have to type {{Spoiler|text=}}, which is certainly an inconvenience. ~Nurse Cholie ^(♥/_♫) 17:35, 2 May 2008 (PDT)

Is there anything preventing it from being {{{1}}}? :/ -) El Bf (-

Not really. ~Nurse Cholie ^(♥/_♫) 17:38, 2 May 2008 (PDT)

User:Bfahome/Sandbox / User talk:Bfahome/Sandbox Eh? :P / Bfa \

Nope. The Wht template doesn't work in yours. ;)

But even then, I still oppose the idea of merging them. --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 06:05, 18 May 2008 (PDT)

[carve] Unknown Flying Rahi

Are we allowed to put a picture of the rahi on or not? (The preceding unsigned comment was made by Aquaclazmz.)

Technically, that BrickMaster exclusive set is a summer set, and therefore creating an article or uploading a picture of it now violates our ban on summer spoilers. So that's a no.

But it doesn't matter anyways. A picture is not necessary when there's no respective article to put it on. --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 03:28, 7 May 2008 (PDT)

[carve] Event Log

It think it would be great to have a member-run (possibly specific few?) log of events where they could record what happened that day. It could have a page, with each day in scroll-boxes and monthly archives. It could be used for the things that usually wouldn't make it into CE, but are noteworthy accomplishments (like four items were removed from the PRA today) etc.? ~Kraahlix

I am planning to open up an event log for the CFS which will definitely be ran by members. :) Bioran (Talk) (Userboxes) (Designs)

I agree, this would be definetly needed. TNU ^{(Talk| My Contribs| Sig Shop)} 18:58, 9 May 2008 (PDT)

Great, so will it be CFS staff run? *Hint hint* :P ~Kraahlix

I don't really have an opinion about the event log you're speaking of, Kraahlix, but I would liked to address the CFS log and couldn't think of a better place for this (seeing as Bioran brought it up here.)

It will be run by members (except maybe the FC one). I haven't decided who yet (and won't be deciding on my own, either ;) ), but I do want member involvement with it. --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 15:53, 12 May 2008 (PDT)

Wait, we're talking about two different logs here? ~Kraahlix

Yeah... Yours is a daily events log and mine's a CFS-based one. Really, mine's not related, I just felt like mentioning it. :P --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 16:52, 12 May 2008 (PDT)

They both sound awesome... ~Yoshi _has ^spoken! 16:53, 12 May 2008 (PDT)

OK, sounds good. So are both going to be made? ~Kraahlix

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So... Any news? Kraahlix

[carve] Featured Quote

Maybe we could have a seperate section for quotes from BS01 members? We're really funny people, afterall :) ~Kraahlix

That's a good idea, I'd like to see all the crazy stuff we say over the place. --KZN02, The Master of Tediousness (^Talk|^Contribs) 16:31, 12 May 2008 (PDT)

Maybe. Bioran (Talk) (Userboxes) (Designs)

[carve] Custom Skins

Is there any way that we could have custom skins for only members? Like, for example, User:Omega Blademan/*Example here*.css/js? Lih's brought it up a few times, but I think it might be a good idea... Well? ... Anyone? I think this could be a good idea... And my name was just for an example. --Omega Blademan | Sound Check | Contribs 16:30, 12 May 2008 (PDT)

I'm pretty sure there is a way, now that I stumbled across this (page deleted) little beauty while backing up the Wiki. But, I'm not really sure how to apply it. :\ ~Nurse Cholie ^(♥/_♫) 10:31, 13 May 2008 (PDT)

Intriguing.. But what if it's just a default message? Or if Swert doesn't have it enabled? But it looks interesting, I might try to test it out later... I still have one page after all XD --Omega Blademan | Sound Check | Contribs 11:36, 16 May 2008 (PDT)

So… is it enabled? Is it possible to use it? If so, can I get the original Kardanui.css code? :D « Bfa »

It's not enabled, as much as I would like otherwise. ~Lih

[carve] MNOLGII

Hi,

For the Mata Nui Online Game II, I noticed that among the tips and hints, there is no note concerning how to save the game. I think this should be there, but as I don't know how to myself, I can't add it. I know the player needs to have a Lego.com account, but how does one go about acually saving progress in the Mata Nui Online Game 2?

BionicleWriter 14:42, 20 May 2008 (PDT)

I think it used to save automatically, I use the word used as I can't even get it started.--Voya Nui Toa 11:39, 29 May 2008 (PDT)

[carve] Toa Nui

I know the policy is not to have an article about it, and I agree with that, but shouldn't it be mentioned somewhere (like in the Toa Kaita article) and have a redirect made in order to prevent the page from being created again and again? Aravagantos | ^¡¿?!/_ñ

[carve] Page for The LEGO Group

Sorry about placing this here, but this seems like the best place for it. But yeah, I think we should make a page for TLC, or at least a "LEGO" page, as BIONICLE is a part of LEGO and we should reference something to this great company. Bioran ^{☺(Talk) (Userboxes) (Designs)☺}

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Message moved from AfD. Please tell us if you want a page on The LEGO Group or not and why. ~Nurse Cholie ^(♥/_♫) 16:05, 29 May 2008 (PDT)

I think there should be. After all, they created Bionicle, and if it weren't for that, this wiki wouldn't be here. :P - (☺|☻|☼)

Kind of a hard call, but I think we would be best off not having a LEGO page for now. We're a BIONICLE site only, so making a page for LEGO (even though it owns BIONICLE) that amounted to anything more than a stub would be a bit too much of a deviation from our main focus than I would find comfortable. Anything we want people to know about it could just be put on the BIONICLE article. (Oh, and have you forgotten about the Member Opinions Hub, Bioran? <<) -- Cheers, Gravitan^{(Talk | Contribs)}

I support having a LEGO page. ~Lih

I say just add all relevant info to BIONICLE. Kraahlix

[carve] MS Template

This member has been nominated for the Member Spotlight. If you think that Member Opinions Hub deserves to be the featured member, go here to vote for {{{1}}}.

Viola? Kraahlix

Looks good to me. It sounds kinda like the template is suggesting who to vote for though. Perhaps slightly different wording would help. -- Cheers, Gravitan^{(Talk | Contribs)}

Eh? Kraahlix

Hmm... Methinks this works. Note the gender selection. ^^ -- Cheers, Gravitan^{(Talk | Contribs)}

You were always good with words :P I'll make it then. (Template:MSNominated) Kraahlix

[carve] Species

I was thinking it could be useful to have a page concerning the different species in the Matoran universe. Perhaps detailing each species briefly and mentioning unnamed species (The beings made of solid light, Sidorak and Voporak's species, TSO and Ancient's species, etc.) even more breifly and explaining the reason for so many species and how they are or are not limited to particular places. What do you think? --Aqua I (^Talk/_{Contributions}) 09:55, 5 June 2008 (PDT)

I like the idea, but we sort of cover them all in characters don't we? Kraahlix

No not really, we just mention characters, not species, and the only times you see them are on location pages, I definately feel we should put a Species page, we would first list like named species, and the show unnamed species, I feel it should be done. SAmaster

You have my vote. --Wrinkledlion X 15:51, 6 June 2008 (PDT)

Same here

*cough* So can we make it happen? --Aqua I (^Talk/_{Contributions}) 12:24, 15 June 2008 (PDT)

No. We had something like this before and it produced nothing beneficial. All it ended up doing was saying things like:

==Botar's Species==

Botar's species looks like Botar. They can teleport.

And we can already figure that out just by reading about Botar.

Besides that, any species that actually matter (i.e. named ones) already have pages devoted to them. So some sort of parent page wouldn't be necessary either, because that's covered by Characters. --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 13:46, 15 June 2008 (PDT)

Maybe now that we know more about the species maybe we could create a page for species. For example, Botar's species entry could say things such as:

==Botar's species==

Botar's Species are a race of lean, muscular beings that live somewhere in the south of the Bionicle universe. They are supposed to have hideous faces and maws filled with rows upon rows of monstrous teeth. The very sight of them is said to give Visorak nightmares. As a rule, they all posses the ablity to teleport from place to place with almost no limits. They are at least twice the height of the average Toa.

Yes, I know this was all in Botar's page, but maybe we can delete that part and place it in a seperate page? just a suggestion...Krintask : Toa Of Acid

I still don't like the idea of having an article for a bunch of unnamed, relatively unimportant species. --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 03:52, 28 August 2008 (PDT)

[carve] Same Page

Hey there are two pages for the same place, the drifts, and the wastes, can someone delete one, and its info o the other one? SAmaster

Shine just did. :D « Bfa »

[carve] Krika

There is inaccurate information on Krika's page, but beecause of the spoiler policy I cannot say what. As an owner of Bionicle Legends 10, I say just because every other person has this, does not mean Krika does. (The preceding unsigned comment was made by Defectionmaster.)

Well it should be considered accurate until the spoilers are allowed. « Bfa »

[carve] My 3rd template

What say you?

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Kraahlix

Genius. Just the thing we need. ~Yoshi ^{is BAAAAAAAAAAACK!!}

Nice. :D Bioran ^{☺(Talk) (Userboxes) (Designs)☺}

Thanks.
So can I make it? Kraahlix

:/ I'm not that much of a fan of it. We already link to the PRA in the sidebar, so it's accessable from all pages. It's up to the members to check it out, though.

It would also be placed on the talk page, so it's not like many people would ever notice it, especially considering many of the PRA pages are obscure ones.

My honest opinion? I just don't want another notebox template... I'm not completely ruling it out, though. (Except for the PRA category - I avidaly oppose that.) So... I guess just wait for more opinions on the template. --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 19:44, 7 June 2008 (PDT)

[carve] "Year" Userboxes?

????? « Bfa »

Why don't we just use Era templates? Bioran ^{☺(Talk) (Userboxes) (Designs)☺}

Cuz it's for character pages? :P ~Cholie ^(Talk/_Stuffs) 17:27, 7 June 2008 (PDT)

How about this?

:P -Danwojo913 is out.

Actually, using Era templates could be cool... I mean, they don't categorize anything, so I think they'd be fine to have on userpages. ~Yoshi ^{is BAAAAAAAAAAACK!!}

Plus, not everybody uses userboxes. :P Bioran ^{☺(Talk) (Userboxes) (Designs)☺}

Not everyone would use it anyways. :P ~Cholie ^(Talk/_Stuffs) 18:47, 7 June 2008 (PDT)

We would need to ask Swert, he said only character pages. Kraahlix

The Era template will only be used for characters. That's final.

I completely support the userboxes, though. Coloring could use some work (:P), but aside from that it's fine. --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 19:45, 7 June 2008 (PDT)

When a GM completely supports something, it's a go, correct? Kraahlix

Unless another GM or the owner contradicts it. :P

I am sure Swert can create Era templates for members. :) Bioran ^{☺(Talk) (Userboxes) (Designs)☺}

But why, though? There's absolutely no need. --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 19:55, 7 June 2008 (PDT)

I think its a good idea to show how many years you have been here. Avlok

I've set up an era system out of my userpage. To use, place {{User:Danwojo913|User Era -YEAR-}} on your page. I have 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2008 set up. :) -Danwojo913 is out.

[carve] Member List

I realize that this might be extreamly hard to make (At least for me :p) but we should have a member list like on BZP for like if a vandal is on and he has edited a protected page or something,messed up codeing,ect you could tell what staff member is on so that they could edit the page,ect.Avlok

You can see who's editing here, though. ~Yoshi ^{is BAAAAAAAAAAACK!!}

Well for one thing, vandals can't edit protected pages. ;P And if there were staff on, they'd likely see the attack. And if they don't, this page to se if a staffie is patrolling edits, which would mean that they are on. « Bfa »

[carve] Videos

I saw some promotional footage that I really feel should be saved here. The names of the videos follow (note that the names I give here may/may not be precisely the same, given my memory). The Infected Lewa, Bionicle Mask of Light Prototype Trailer, Legend of Mata Nui Intro, Story Synopsis (for 2001, as well as the Bohrok Story-in English), and the Toa (Mata) commercial videos especially stood out to me. Besides being quite cool (I had never seen seen any of them), I think the footage would be very good additions to their respective BionicleSector pages. As far as I know, they are all official animations/promotional material. I'm not sure, but maybe the person has other content that could be useful for BionicleSector. I hope it helps and that it will be saved here. BionicleWriter 14:41, 13 June 2008 (PDT)

We actually already have most of those videos on the site. The character-specific ones are on gallery pages and some of the broader ones have their own articles. I can't say we have all of them for sure, but I know we have most. --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 14:50, 13 June 2008 (PDT)

Really? I'm sure I sifted this site pretty thoroughly, and I did not find any of the footage that I mentioned above. I'm not sure if I made it clear, but the promotion material I was referring to were CGI animations, not CGI pictures or artwork. Note: The Mask of Light Prototype Trailer I mentioned is not the one panning over the Avohkii--the one here--instead, for some reason, it showed Lewa exploring a jungle-like area (it looked similar to the 2001 Toa Promo CD animation of Lewa). BionicleWriter 15:25, 13 June 2008 (PDT)

Might you mean this video? ~Cholie ^(Talk/_Stuffs) 15:32, 13 June 2008 (PDT)

I knew you were talking about animations. I'm not daft. And I'm going to take that as insult, considering I said in my first comment the word "video" (AKA, animation).

Here is, what you called, the 2001 "story synopsis", and what is displayed here is a shortened version of the "Legend of Mata Nui Intro" video. Hence why I made it clear most are on here, but not all.

Now, the only problem is finding ways to display the videos. I absolutely hate putting a video on an article unless the article is about said video. So unless you propose a way to do that, I don't see how this is going to be done without creating an excessive amount of short, unnecessary articles. (However, Triggy is quite good at making animation articles... We'll see. It depends on the video, I guess.) --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 15:47, 13 June 2008 (PDT)

Sorry, I didn't mean any part of what I said as an insult. I must've worded it weakly, as there is no reason to insult anyone here..

I wasn't aware that the "Legend of Mata Nui" video was a shortened version of the intro I mentioned. Can the whole thing be uploaded?

To Cholie: Is that Mask of Light Prototype video here, or just uploaded to the site of the link you gave me?

But I don't think the other two that I was talking about are available here ("Infected Lewa" and the Toa Mata commercial)--unless I overlooked them. All-in-all though, I will think of a way to apply the videos to the site, like you said, but I'll have to come back with that.. Iz 16:19, 13 June 2008 (PDT)

Okay, I have an idea for the placement of the videos. First, I noticed that the Infected Lewa was added, but placed on its own page. Since it was marked as stub, wouldn't it be better to place it in Lewa's page gallery? Its still about Lewa, so it would be pretty self-explanatory. Instead, I was thinking that the Mask of Light Prototype Animation should get its own page.

Also, can we extend the "Legend of Mata Nui Intro" to the full version? Unless I'm unaware of a particular reason for it being shortened, I really think it should be extended--it would only better its page, and more information could then be added.

I was thinking about the Turaga Vakama short too, but I couldn't think of where to put it--it may need another page, but as mentioned, that wouldn't be ideal. Maybe it could go on the Toa Mata Promo Animations page?

Lastly, even though I'm not pushing for it as much, I thought it would be good to add the Toa's 2001 commercial to the Toa Mata Animations page; or seperately like the Phantoka animations, for example. Iz 16:11, 17 June 2008 (PDT)

[carve] please take to mind

on the 2008 saga guides can you please let us know when the next chapters are going to get posted cos i get bored every time i get on it just to find out theres no chpters cos i usausly think that every chpters come every ten day but its been a fortnight now since mutran chronicles chapter was posted and i fought chapter nine of dark mirror was to come almost a week ago please reply so i no that youve taken it into consideration. the names wertatu (i'm english) (sorry if i was wining)

They Usualy come onto the site everyother monday-tuesday Avlok

There's no way we could possibly know when the next chapters are to be posted. When they are posted, however, a message is put up on the Current Events page. (Usually it also gets put on the Main Page too.) --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 09:38, 18 June 2008 (PDT)

[carve] "BZPower Page"

On quite a few templates, there's a link to BZP's set database. But a lot of pages are about characters that were never made into sets. It seems like it would be kind of confusing (not to mention adding an extra section to the template code on the page). I was thinking it would help (for lack of a better word) to add something like on here to the template's code (demonstrated here). «-Bfa-»

Sounds like a good idea, I was just thinking about that recently. --KZN02, The Master of Tediousness (^Talk|^Contribs) 19:09, 18 June 2008 (PDT)

Sounds good. I like this idea. ~Lih

So… what's the consensus? «-Bfa-»

Can someone please answer? I kinda want my sandbox back. D: «-Bfa-»

I have a better idea which will eliminate the extra box at bottom... Bioran ^{☺(Talk) (Userboxes) (Designs)☺}

And that would be...? Because I'd actually be willing to use the switch function here, for he has a valid reason for its use. Oh, wait, he didn't use the switch function, but the if... Was your plan to use the switch one, Bioran? --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 04:02, 23 July 2008 (PDT)

[carve] Playsets

Should someone add a playset template, like the titan set's ? SAmaster

First of all, do not remove other member's comments.

Second, I don't see a need to. We don't have articles for all of the playsets, so one for the few we do would be rather unnecessary (because there are so few of them.) --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 11:53, 23 June 2008 (PDT)

well I just find it hard to find the other playset page's. Sorry about the removal, but I put it up in the first place, so I thought it would be alright. SAmaster

[carve] Category

Should we have a BS01 Chroniclers category to go along with the template? Kraahlix

Not really sure on this one. :/ We don't have one for CFS members, and there's a template for that too. Granted, I'm not saying there shouldn't be a category for CFS staff. I just sort of can't decide... Let's see what other staff have to say, okay? --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 10:29, 27 June 2008 (PDT)

[carve] Request's Page

I was thinking, Should we have a request for bots,adminship,ect page? Avlok

I'm sorry, but no. Such decisions are only made amongst the currently active staff team. Bioran ^{☺(Talk) (Userboxes) (Designs)☺}

Ah. Avlok

[carve] @PRA

I had an idea, why don't we create a Category:PRA page? That way, we can have the list on a category also. Paladin TNU

Guess because nobody thought about it. I'll think about it -- ^{Owner (Talk / BS01)}

[carve] Image Caption Idea

I had an idea for an additional CFS contest: a caption of the week contest. An image is chosen, funny (appropriate) captions are written by our editors, and we all vote on the best caption. I'd be willing to pick the images (I've already got a few in mind.) Kol628, QuoteMaster

Sounds like a good idea, lots of people have captions for images already in their userpages. --KZN02, The Master of Tediousness (^Talk|^Contribs) 11:28, 11 July 2008 (PDT)

This would be an official contest, with the winner on the front page and whatnot. Kol628, QuoteMaster

I think the CFS has quite enough things going on in it already. Something like this would just be too superfluous. --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 12:28, 11 July 2008 (PDT)

[carve] Spore

Since BZP is down, I can't post this in a topic, so I'll post it here. I recently joined a fansite for the game Spore. I just joined, so I have no avatar, and it gives me a default avatar. I looked at it, and it's a ripoff of our old "no image" image.

• Their image

• Our image

I'm not even so sure I should be posting this here, but I figure I'd take a shot at it.LordArzeron ^{(Convocation Chamber|My Mark on Society)} 09:58, 12 July 2008 (PDT)

Probably should take it up with the site; we don't even use it anymore, so I don't know what we can or would do. ~Yoshi ^{is BAAAAAAAAAAACK!!}

It's the exact same image. Just shrunk. Avlok

Yeah, that's exactly my reason for posting it. LordArzeron ^{(Convocation Chamber|My Mark on Society)}

[carve] Finnish words in Bionicle

• Why I Cant Post Them? User: ShadowUmbra

Because this site is and will be in English. Kraahlix

• Why They Can't be In Trivia sector? User:ShadowUmbra

Because the staff moderate every piece of info added to the Wiki, and they do so in English. We don't want to start using other langueges because it would be difficult for the staff to go look up all the words while making sure that it is canon, ontop of all their other duties. We just stick to English.
Besides, saying what a mask's name means in Finnish isn't relevant to BIONICLE, and thus doesn't belong here. Kraahlix

...And they're coincidences, which don't matter at all. So Kraahlix's second point about them not being relevant is the real reason they're not allowed. --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 07:43, 15 July 2008 (PDT)

• Ok. I Understand. I'm going To Edit Finnish Bionicle Wiki and let this Wiki peace. User:ShadowUmbra

[carve] Index

• Shoudn't we have a page that links to every single page in the sector? user:Patrickbob

Special:Allpages. :P -Danwojo913 is out.

[carve] Custom templates

I think we should customize or templates more, like Current CoTW and Needrewrite for instance. We can make it something like this:
Matoran requires a rewrite of the {{{1}}}. It be "article" or "History section."
Kind of like what I did with the Needquote template, this way I think people woild be more willing to help articles out. Kraahlix

Seems like it just be more templates to keep track of. :/ Avlok

No more templates, just customized existing ones. Like this: {{Needrewrite|history section}} Kraahlix

[carve] Citing Sources

Sometimes I see a fact, and I have no idea where someone got it from and wonder if it's even legitimate. Other times, I see a statement that sounds very questionable and more of an opinion rather than a fact. Shouldn't articles start including citations? You could link to specific posts in the OGD, or just refer to one of the books or comics, whatever. For the sake of getting the facts straight, which is what this wiki is all about, this would be an awesome improvement. -- Planetperson 12:04, 24 July 2008 (PDT)

I personally see citing sources as very messy and confusing. I think it's fine as long as the member states where they got that info from in the edit summary. And if they don't, the Staff who check every single edit will most likely revert it untill a source is given. --Aqua I (^Talk/_{Contributions}) 12:32, 24 July 2008 (PDT)

I see not having citations as very messy and confusing. Having citations isn't complicated at all; just put a number after a fact that takes you to the bottom of the page, which tells you where the fact came from. C'mon, it's how they do it in the big leagues! Well, I'd appreciate to hear the personal opinions of some more people before I get politely told mine doesn't matter. -- Planetperson 12:50, 24 July 2008 (PDT)

This has been discussed to death before, and we're simply not doing citations. The staff don't like it, and that's that. --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 14:35, 24 July 2008 (PDT)

[carve] ?s

It seems like less questions are getting answered these days because the RC is pretty busy at times and the staff can't check everything, so I thought of making a question template, not a note-box or anything - just like this: {{?|Why is this page a stub? ~~~}}. All the tmeplate would be is basically a link to a categroy called unanswered questions. Then the staff or members can just check the category, and answer the question while taking off the tag around it. Kraahlix

No. If a question goes unanswered, then the person asking should go directly to a staff member if something on an article's talk page is missed. (Though, they aren't always missed. Sometimes we just don't feel like commenting.) --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 16:05, 28 July 2008 (PDT)

In that case, can I make a suggestion? Perhaps if rather than ignore and still marking it as patrolled, don't mark it as patrolled so that it will be brought to the attention of another staff member and hopefully answered. Would that work? --Aqua I (^Talk/_{Contributions}) 06:39, 30 July 2008 (PDT)

*bumpcoughbump* --Aqua I (^Talk/_{Contributions}) 12:39, 11 August 2008 (PDT)

[carve] AfC

I have noticed that some articles are getting Created, Edited, Then Deleted all in a matter of minutes :( So i think we should have a Articles For Creation, That if your not sure about creating an article, you can go to that page and ask if it is allright to create an article. :) That way there would be no Creating, Editing, then Deleting, and it would save on not having to delete as many articles. Avlok ^(Chat/_{Sig Shop)}

Seems like a quite a good idea IMO. --K~T | Talk to me! | Siggy Shop! | My Contribs!

I agree 100%. ~Masketh-Kahn (^Talk/_{Contributions}\ ^Sandbox)

It only looks like a problem because a lot of articles were made in a short period of time about prettty pointless things that don't deserve articles. Typically, this isn't a problem. So I see the idea as being just another nuisance for the staff. --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 12:14, 5 August 2008 (PDT)

If it were to be needed we could just move AfD to BIONICLEsector01:Pending Articles, and have it go both ways. Kraahlix

I like Kraah's idea: New ideas suggested, old (pointless) ideas deleted. Kol628, QuoteMaster

I now support the Articles for Creation idea... --~|ET|~ ^(Talk /_Contribs) 07:58, 1 September 2008 (PDT)

>_> yay... Avlok ^(Chat/_{Sig Shop)}

So... Avlok

Oh, right. The plan was to put this up after the whole Battles thing was done with on the AfD, and technically it's not done yet. And somebody's still go to write the rules and stuff for it (well, I never started anywayd... Not sure about anybody else). --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 14:55, 9 September 2008 (PDT)

[carve] Mata Nui

Why is Mata Nui the Being, still protected? SAmaster

I believe it's because a Leaked Video that said SUPREME Spoliers about him -----(Creep Of The Deep |Talk "You can call me the Lockdown")-- 18:11, 12 August 2008 (PDT)

[carve] Specials

Shouldn't the E Hub, Event Log and KanohiJournal in the specials box at the side of the screen be reduced to EH, EL and KJ? So that they stay consistent with the rest of the box? -- Aqua I (Quick-speak/Find-contributes) 12:00, 14 August 2008 (PDT)

That would make sense, although I think E Hub is fine on its own. Scholar TNU

EL and KJ aren't very well known yet though. Kraahlix

Even still, writing out the full name isn't going to tell them what it is and they could still just click the link. I guess I'm just obsessed with consistency though. ¬_¬ -- Aqua I (Quick-speak/Find-contributes) 12:28, 14 August 2008 (PDT)

[carve] Tunnels of Onu-Wahi

Wouldn't it make more sense to combine the Onu-Koro and Le-Koro Highways? It could be Highway tunnels of Onu-Wahi. It would also include the tunnel between onu koro and ta-koro. SAmaster

[carve] Sidebar

Would it be a good idea to put a link to Game Team in the sidebar? Borna12345, The master of wiki coding ^(Talk|UBs)

The GT isn't really a part of the wiki, so it shouldn't be included on the sidebar. Bioran ^{☺(Talk) (Userboxes) (Designs)☺}

[carve] Templates

I propose two new templates:

1. Box template

Not so sure, but maybe it would be nice to have one instead of having to use div coding every time.

2. Award template

This could save a lot of room and simplify things greatly... Can I get either/both approved to make? Kraahlix

I think that would severely limit what one can include in an award or whatever by having it restricted to a single template. Yeah, it is a bit of a pain to work with the coding, but then a lot of people also don't even understand how to use a template where you just plug in information. --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 14:54, 9 September 2008 (PDT)

I get what you're saying,

I tested it in the sandbox - the box template seems like it would be fine to me. And the award one could make a basic award with sven descriptors. What do you think? Kraahlix

[carve] Who is online

A who is online Feature on the Sidebar would be nice.--MatoroIgnika^(UBs/_Sand) 17:20, 7 October 2008 (PDT)

It would be nice and useful, but that requires upgrading the wiki. Erebus ^{(Quick-Speak)} 17:29, 7 October 2008 (PDT)

On the sidebar?

That would probably slow down the site a ton, because then every page would have to load that. (Disregarding that it's impossible at the moment.) --~|ET|~ ^(Talk/_Contribs) 17:53, 7 October 2008 (PDT)

No, MI meant a link to a page that showed who's online, like I did on the Game Team Wiki, not a full list on the sidebar itself. -Danwojo913 is out

Correct,thanks Dan.--MatoroIgnika^(UBs/_Sand) 19:00, 7 October 2008 (PDT)

[carve] Idiot